Making Contact

Jamison Pack believes in the power of baseball, the romanticism of it and the way it can build connections across generations and communities and, he hopes massive divisions.
While he waits on a home for his transient Grovewood Baseball Museum, the Newport native is knee deep in a project that he hopes can make a bigger difference in the world than even the best baseball museum in the world could.
Pack, who originally opened his museum in Morristown and is in the process of moving it to a larger facility in Chattanooga, is partnering with Time:Stamp, a Chattanooga-based production company run by Griffin Ball and Dewayne Bingham, to produce, “Anyone’s Game’’ a show about baseball, relationships and how the game is bigger than any division – except maybe Red Sox -Yankees.
“I’m so excited about it. It’s really been all that’s on my mind,” Pack said.” I’m constantly amazed at how many people I meet, and how many friends I make just because of baseball. It’s amazing how baseball can connect us “That was the theme of the museum, ‘the Collection That Connects Us.’” The series features Pack using the connections he’s made through the game to have conversations about life and baseball and more. It includes ex-ballplayers and other people who have loved the game – like the owner of a Negro League Museum, comedians and actors and more.
Among the former players he interacts with are Ferguson Jenkins and Doc Gooden, both of whom made appearances at the Museum when it was open, as well as Will Clark and former minor leaguer Chris Singleton, whose mother was killed in a mass shooting in a South Carolina church.
He even sits down with the controversial former Braves reliever John Rocker.
“The show is a little bit of my personality, I’m not trying to take a political stance, I’m trying to connect. That’s my personality, that’s what I enjoyed,” he said. “It goes back to connection, that’s what baseball does for us. It’s the stories behind the game that we want to come out.”
But more than simply the game that will be featured. In a way, it’s about the different facets of life on and off the field.
“The appeal the show is going to have, I think is much bigger than anything just the museum could do, reach a whole lot more people,” he said. “I wanna make a show that even my wife Taleea would watch, and she hates baseball!”
Part of the basic concept is to have the ex-players focused on life outside the game, not another conversation about a World Series run, a big pitch or a key error.
For example, Jenkins, the Hall of Fame pitcher and renowned sportsman takes, Pack – a significantly less renowned sportsman – on the first hunting trip of his life.
Hilarity ensues. “Fergie, he gets paid to go hunt and fish with people. I have no interest in hunting. I’d never been, “ Pack said.
Then the suggestion came that Fergie take Jamison on a hunting trip “At first, I was completely against it. That’s not me. I’ve never shot a rifle,” said Pack. “I gave it some time talked to Ferg about it and scheduled it in December.”
It was cold, dark and there was an incident with an unsilenced cell phone. No animals were hurt in the process.
Another interview that stood out was Singleton, He was a late-round draft pick of the Cubs in 2017 out of Charleston Southern and played two seasons in the minors. His mother was one of nine people killed in the racially motivated Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church shooting in 2015.
Today, he is a motivational speaker.
“He and I connected so well,” Pack said. “What a mature person he is.”
And then there’s Rocker, whose fame spilled over into infamy when he made sexist, homophobic and racist comments in a Sports Illustrated interview in 1999. In the intervening decades, Rocker has remained a controversial figure.
“I had some friends tell me when they found out when I was going to interview Rocker, it might be a backlash situation,” he said. “I was like, ‘yeah, I hear you, but if they have a problem with me just talking to him?’’ he said. “I’m not a political guy. I try to stay neutral. When he wandered into politics, I didn’t really take the bait.
“I was curious. ‘Where are you now in life?’ I was interested in the human side. I think I found it.”
Rocker spoke about some of his charitable work for sick children and having to be a pallbearer for the son of one of his close friends, who died at six-years-old.
“I had already teared up with Chris Singleton,” he said. ‘I was like ‘I’m not gonna cry in every scene,’” Ultimately, Pack said he tried to approach the interview, find the unexpected thing.
“Is he still polarizing? Do people care there is a side to him that no one else sees?” he asked.
The idea for the show took flight during what was supposed to be a light lunch meeting with Ball, who’d had the idea of doing small reels, highlighting items in the museum like Babe Ruth’s 13 home run ball from 1927 or Yogi Berra’s mask or hundreds more items plucked from baseball’s history.
But the idea quicky grew into something bigger.
“It’s funny how that lunch turned out because it wasn’t even really about that,” said Pack who’d been shopping his idea around to cinematographers. “It’s funny how all that came up. Everybody was too busy for me. It was just fate that I found the Time:Stamp guys and here we are.”
Ball said he liked the idea from the start but was a little bit skeptical. Not of Jamison, just that in that business a lot of good ideas never get the follow through.
But Jamison follows through. He connects.
“I met with him, anticipating we could some reels for different artifacts that he’s got at the museum,” Ball said. “He liked me enough, saw a possibility. He brought up the idea of how “Parts Unknown” is his favorite show, “He said he always wanted to do something like it, and he talked about how he wants to let people in on his life, I wasn’t sure how serious he was about for a while, but because in the industry. People can just disappear in an instant. We’ve been burned a ton of times before.
“We’ll see what happens – figured out what the roles where in things, but still were just like insecure whether it’s going to happen or not, I didn’t know if we’re the right people for this or not, I knew we were capable of making something pretty cool but before he was talking to us, he was talking to documentary directors in L.A.
“I was very honest with him. I said I just want to start and see how it goes; I think that he was mostly wanting to get it started “I don’t think he knew we were going to be able make it as good as we have.”
Ball said they started with a Baseball version of “Parts Unknown” – which had celebrity chef and writer Anthony Bourdain touring the world, but the idea has morphed from there.
“When we initially conceptualized the show, we were making it parts unknown but baseball but we’ve expanded to who he is and what he’s trying to do, dinner and meeting with people and more.
“Jamison mentioned off hand the hunting thing. Well, that’s our thing right there, I’m glad that Jamison has been up to doing whatever, it was just kind of an off-hand suggestion and built up to reality. “It shows the diversity of we’re what trying to show and the audience as well.”
For Pack, a warm and welcoming collector who loves talking about baseball, it’s history and more, it’s also about letting more people into his world where he gets to hob knob with the heroes of his youth, many of whom are now his friends.
“I’ve had so many people say to me, ‘Dude, you are living my dreams.’ I wish I could take everyone with me but that’s not realistic. What is realistic is documenting it. I want all my friends to get to be there, to see the experience of it and the ups and downs.
“It’s not all rosy but it sure is fun I wanted to bring all my people with me.”
“Anyone’s Game” is still in development and is actively being shopped to potential streaming and broadcast partners.




